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What books sell for $80 bucks a copy? Even hardcovers rarely break $50.
Yeah, I think a factor of 10 is in operation here – 8.61 for an author’s share of a hardback sounds about right
This is probably an average of textbooks (which can cost upwards of $150, easily), rare books, and all books in general, not just novels. This probably also accounts for the low rate of average number of copies sold (500)
Average book. The author never specified a type of book until the end. College text books throw a wrench the size of Canada into a national figure (what with charging 150+ for a book.)
That’s because we raised a generation of morons who can’t read more then 140 characters.
Said by someone who clearly doesn’t understand the difference between than and then.
Me screwing up one letter won’t change the fact that it’s true, besides I’m not going to make sure my memebase post is 100% correct to please you tools.
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But $80 per book is complete RUBBISH. Authors, who sell in hardback, MIGHT get $8 per book? Where do your numbers come from?
The fact that you have to make sure you’ve written the correct form of then/than is slightly worrying in itself. Your point still stands, of course.
Sadly I have to make sure. I generally think too much about what I’m writing as I’m writing it that I don’t realize minor grammar mistakes until I go back and check.
And guess who raised that generation, dummy?
Adults are the ones in charge in Jersey Shore, Nicki Minaj, all the stupid rappers and dumb reality shows. Grow up.
Good point, good comic.
*cough* than…
And what conclusion would you make if a comic compared 5 bestselling writers and an average Tweeter account?
Really? I had no idea that just because I am 13, I am automatically a moron. You can’t judge an entire generation and treat them like they’re all the same, I hate how talentless people get so famous and earn so much off of it. I also hate it how the previous generation thinks that everyone in ours are morons.
I’m 13 and I think that is how it works; the older generation always finds the younger generation to be less respectful, obedient, intelligent etc. than they once were and the younger generation tells them how wrong they are. This is how it has worked for hundreds of years and it won’t change for you. Our turn will come.
…’cause that’s just plain WRONG. Out of both generations, there’s a HUGE amount of morons.
Take it from someone who lives in YOUR generation.
I agree that there are morons in my generation for sure, that’s why crappy music is so popular today. But not all of us are morons.
I, for one, memorized the periodic table in order in grade 5. Not to mention all of the other people who go to spelling bees and math field day and AGLOA et cetera.
And no one is going to do anything about it, because we’re lazy.
Excuse me… You are an idiot. A “moron” is an ADULT who acts as an adolescent. It helps to know definitions; buy a dictonary. Oh wait! They’re incredibly expensive…
I still can’t get past pane 3… What average person pays over $80 for a book!?
I think the dude is including 2000 page technical how to books and college text books.
$80.61 a book?!
Books cost $80 in America?!?! O.O
That statistic is probably including text books as well as novels, drastically raising the cost per book. It would also increase the words per book which would decrease the money per dollar.
^ Yeah this. Those numbers are incredibly misleading. What novelist only sells five hundred books? I don’t even know how textbooks could bring that number down so low… It is too easy to find stupidly misleading statistics on the Internet. I’m positive that even a bestselling novelist makes less money per character than Charlie Sheen does Tweeting, but honestly with what he makes acting (He wanted $3M per sitcom episode which is why he’s unemployed now), it’s even not worth his time to Tweet advertisements at $50k per Tweet (unless he pays someone to Tweet for him..), so why this information is even surprising, I dunno.
there are a few popular novelists out there… but there are a s**tload of unknowns
That seems a little low for an average university text book….
No, that number is complete crap.
But authors love to wright, to share their ideas and thoughts. They just do what they love, and get money for that.
“Authors love to write”.
Well…Douglas Adams didn’t like to write books, he did it for the money^^
So difficult word…
write write write write write write
Not really. That’s like comparing actors in local theater to A-list actors in Hollywood. Only 1 in 300 wannabe writers will ever manage to get a work published in a professional market. In their entire lives. Of them, about 1 in 3000 actually makes enough money writing for it to be classified as a full-time job.
Most of us write for the chance to be able to write for a living. Realizations such as pointed out by this comic are just another reason most writers drink like fish and waffle between the effort of trying to get a book published versus eating a bullet. Even should said book be published, having to deal with a society that considers Tweeting high art is the sort of intellectual drudgery and American wasteland that would make the punishment of Sisyphus look like a cakewalk by comparison. We want to share ideas and thoughts, but are getting the impression there aren’t many out there to share them with anymore.
I don’t want to live on this planet anymore.
Yeah, but in 500 years will they still be reading Charlie Sheen’s tweets? Because I’m reading Pride and Prejudice on my Kindle.
Just saying.
I get your point, and agree with it, but was published in 1813 so it’s only 200 years old.
The Art of War, The Bhagavad Gita, Illiad, Oddesy, The Republic, (some would say The Bible and The Qur’an), The Canterbury Tales, and those were all just off the top of my head; your argument is invalid
Ignore this, I misunderstood what you said.
I’m not going to ignore it.
You’re an idiot for posting that!
I don’t even know what you said!
A miniscule sample of available contemporary writings.
F YOU TWITTER!!!
signed,
a poor writer
Yep, moronic authors write so lamebrained consumers can eat it…
Good authors usually do ok in the long run though, it’s the niche authors that are usually not appreciated financially because book companies won’t make enough money of them.
Me likey. Freaking celebratards.
To be fair a startling amount of what gets published these days is utter trash, even the non-fiction. Take something like Ginger Strand’s “Inventing Niagara” supposedly “A brilliantly entertaining history of America’s original natural wonder.” It’s actually just a couple hundred pages of Strand using “I” as every other word and complaining about not being allowed to bring her iPod, Coffee, and snack food into a historical archive. But yeah it’s the society we made, hoo-ray for us.
It’s a sad world we live in…
I wonder if text books were factored into that average cost per book. Textbooks have EXTREMELY high costs.
oh my god, this has been said 50 times so shut up…
Authors DON’T earn that much per copy, whatever is book price author gets only about 2-15%! The rest is taken by publishers(this also counts the expenses for printing, publishing, commercials, etc.), tax. And publishers usually only agree to sell your book/story, if is written by their measures…
The other way is to skip commercial publishers and print, edit, publish book by yourself. But i wont go there because thats painful!
self-publishing your own book means you need to do you own distribution and marketing… great if you want to be a distributor and marketer… but kinda sucks otherwise.
Well just don’t count J.K Rowling then. She did manage to become a billionaire just by writing.
She’s a special case. This is meant to be an average for authors. And this still took her several years of writing, as well as being facilitated by her books being made into 8 highly successful movies. The first movie fueled interest in the books, which fueled interest into the movies, etc. There’s a lot behind her success.
Now, if she got even the low end of the celebrity Tweet income, $2,500 for every 140 characters, she’d be significantly richer. Just try to imagine what she’d have.
TL;DR
tl;dr version…
Celebrities make more money than authors.
Part of the problem….. just like me
-oh how my mind has scattered-
very sad
They justify those amount of payment by the fame that goes with it. They are celebrities & their words reach out far better than any average novelist, even if it’s stupid. It’s like using a billboard that the world sees. The more exposure you know the billboard will get the higher the pay.
But it’s still sad when comparing to an average writer.
OBJECTION!
The Celebs aren’t paid to tweet, they are paid to endorse product through their tweets. So they are being paid because people are willing to subscribe to “tweets” that are little more than commercials. Still not very good, but at least they aren’t making the money every single tweet.
This is why I’m moving to Scotland.
xD fail! no one cares what a university degree professor has to say, we only care about celeb tweets :]
Most authors dont write a book to make money though. Who goes “I’m gonna spend the next year to write a book that won’t make that much money”
the average doctor works a few hundred hours a month, helping people and gets paid somewhere between 40-60k a year depending on what type of doctor, maybe 120k for the expensive private practice doctors (not sure if this has changed since i last checked), but the average rookie nfl football player (regardless of whether or not they played) can get paid 60k and up per game, plus some of the commissions, so more like around 80-100k a year “working” only a few hours a week for part of the year and their training during off season, not to mention those wanting to be doctors have to pay a lot of their way through college and more expensive med school even though they’re really smart, but a football player can get a free ride to almost any college (if they’re good) even though they don’t need to be intelligent. seriously dafuq america where are your priorities.
Shouldn’t it be “fewer than 140 characters”? I don’t want to be one of THOSE dudes but seriously, if you’re going to post about something so awesome, at least get that right… unless I’m wrong. In which case, my foot will be inserted in my mouth… and other places as well.
The going rate for short stories and novellas is $.05 per word.
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OP is an idiot. Even if a book sold for $80, which it doesn’t, only around 10% would go to the author. That’s $8 a book. Logically speaking though, a book sells for $20. $20 = $2 for the author. If it goes on sale, less for the author. It’s a percentage; they get a fraction each time, not a flat rate. How could you POSSIBLY exclude printing and publishing costs? Are you retarded?
After choosing what appears to be mostly unshackled capitalism, accept the consequences or change to something else. What you have now celebrates profit over anything else.
Too true. We have no one to blame but ourselves, but Damn It! if we didnt mess up bad.
No one alive today really chose the current economic system, so…
And you know whose fault it is? All of you. Any one of you who follows celebrity news is at fault, because advertising companies figure that they can get revenue by exploiting a person’s popularity. So if you don’t want this stupidity to continue, stop being so gossipy about celebrities with whom you’ll never have any significant contact.
Also, Charlie Sheen needs to pay for my college textbooks. $500 for 4 USED books.
+1. Advertising is what ruined everything in the first place. Remove most of it from the equation, or pass some laws that restrict it, and “celebrities” will be put back in their place like everyone else. And mind you, I come from a rich family, who earned every dime they made through honest work. I’m paying my own way through medical school atm and it isn’t easy trying to keep the books balanced that way. In fact, I look forward to my intern’s stipend, which being the first real money I can touch. TL;DR
I know how ya feel. I’m an engineering student trying to land an internship, and seeing that celebrities make this much money to screw around on the internet just makes it that much worse. If I got paid for posting things on the internet, I’d be the world’s richest man (or a secretary with a lib arts degree, since that’s what they do at their receptionist jobs, anyways).
The real problem here is people always judging upon money: how much does he make, how much is that worth…
I mean, I understand the point, but it is definitely no surprise when you live in a world where most of power belongs to “economic” corporations. Advertisement and all kinds of well controlled media are extremely valuable to these corporations: for each thousand of $ earned by Sheen, they gain at least ten times more. It’s just that nowadays “cultural value” is not measured in $.
If you want to blame someone, find who let this system be!
tl;dr
I can’t remember the last time I read a tweet or a book.
How many tweets do you pirate?
How many books get pirated?
I rest my case.
I suppose authors could start having product placement in their books so that even when you steal the book they are still making money.
As a writer, I can attest to the fact that this isn’t true. At all.
The real numbers are much, much lower. An author can get paid about a dollar per novel sold (Which is taken out of their advance for the first little while) and the average book sells around 80 copies.
Seriously, writing doesn’t make much money.
Ultimate facedesk of DOOM!
Yet another reason to feel good about being an avid reader.
tl;dr
Books sell about 500 copies of $80 each? Have you ever even bought a book? It is people like you that make celebrities earn from poorly-written garbage.
Only good news is you took no money for this.
Welcome to planet Earth. Enjoy your stay.
What’s even MORE awesome? They aren’t even the ones posting that crap and getting paid for it. Someone else is posting it and getting minimum wage for it while they pocket all the tweet money.
reading stuff like this makes me want to put a bullet in my head. -_- this world gets dumber and dumber each year.
*each second
You say want a revolution? You talk about change?
First, you take the money away from every politician, every goddamn one of them, because we OWN THE AIRWAVES, and have radio, TV, internet, and news media to help us make our decisions, so we don’t need them spending – WASTING – billions of dollars on campaigns every year only to have ONE of them actually win, AND THEN NOT DO WHAT THEY PROMISED.
Second, you pay professional athletes a salary proportionate to what they’re actually doing, which is playing a BLEEPING GAME.
Third, you hold banks accountable and take away the private jets and the million dollar bonus’ from the CEOs, maybe use that money more wisely so that you don’t ‘have to’ suddenly charge three dollars to check your balance at a %^&@-ing ATM, huh?
Fourth, you have the insurance companies STOP BUYING THE POLITICIAN’S FAVOURS, and do what they’re supposed to do, which is provide a safety net and some peace of mind for the old and young and in between who’s only concern is living through the next three weeks.
Then you make these tabloid appearance a-holes work manual labour and factory jobs for a living.
Finally, you use those trillions of dollars to pay the teachers who are working for free because of budget cuts.
You use those trillions of dollars to help the homeless and the sick.
You use those TRILLIONS of dollars to provide for our troops, who are out there dying – not in the name of freedom, but so that we can destroy a population, take it’s oil, and leave behind a poor excuse for a democracy – because that’s how they can best support their families, who live in this mixed up country while they worry about their mother, father, son, or sister being blown to pieces in an even more messed up place.
And if there’s anything left, which, as much as we need to spend to fix things, there probably will be, because we have so many TRILLIONS AND TRILLIONS of dollars from sensible changes, THEN, you pay the authors, and the artists, and the real songwriters and musicians – NOT BLEEPING BEIBER – and yes, even the real actors and actresses – NOT THE BLEEPING SITUATION – because these are the people who make this crazy life make some sort of sense, and take us away from the folly and insanity and pain and greed, to another world entirely, where Rhyme and Reason reign, and where we can not worry, and be happy.
That’s all.
True Story
Welcome to America
DO NOT WANT. O_e
I dont wanna be a writer anymore D:
ACTUALLY..
F that
Imma just be writing some epic s**t, not caring about the money anyway
Angry self righteous comment!
That’s the reason why we live in a sh*tty world with a sh*tty economy with people who are starving and blah blah blah [insert random Occupy comment here]. Wait, that’s actually a good idea! WE MUST STOP THIS MADNESS!
Break a DVD (or Blu-Ray) that features them every time a celebrity tweets.
(going on and on with the rant)